2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 13

There are now nine teams with about a 5-in-9 or better chance of playing Finals, nine teams with about a 1-in-9 or better chance of finishing Top 4, and three teams with about a 1-in-7 or better chance of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Port Adelaide and Collingwood: almost certain of being finalists; 85 to 90% chance of finishing Top 4; and 35 to 40% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Melbourne: almost certain of being finalists; 75% chance of finishing Top 4; and about 15% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Brisbane Lions: about 90% chance of being finalists; 60% chances of finishing Top 4; and 8% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. St Kilda and Essendon: about 65 to 70% chance of being finalists; about 20 to 25% chance of finishing Top 4; and 2% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Western Bulldogs, Adelaide, and Geelong: about 55 to 60% chance of being finalists; 10 to 15% chance of finishing Top 4; and about 0.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Gold Coast and Fremantle: about 30% chance of being finalists; about 4% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Richmond and Sydney: about 20% chance of being a finalist; 1.5% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. Carlton: roughly 7% chance of being finalists; and little to virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  9. GWS: about 3% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  10. Hawthorn, North Melbourne, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 12

There are now 10 teams with about a 2-in-5 or better chances of playing Finals (and another two teams with around 1-in-3 chances), eight teams with about a 1-in-9 or better chance of finishing Top 4, and three teams with about a 1-in-5 or better chance of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: almost certain of being a finalist; 90% chance of finishing Top 4; and 50% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Port Adelaide and Brisbane Lions: better than 95% chance of being finalists; 75% chances of finishing Top 4; and 20% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Melbourne: 90% chance of being finalists; 60% chance of finishing Top 4; and about 9% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Western Bulldogs: 75% chance of being finalists; 30% chance of finishing Top 4; and about 1 to 2% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. St Kilda, Essendon, and Geelong: about 50 to 60% chance of being finalists; about 10 to 15% chance of finishing Top 4; and 0.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Fremantle and Adelaide: about 40 to 45% chance of being finalists; about 6 to 9% chance of finishing Top 4; and 0.1 to 0.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Gold Coast and Sydney: about 30% chance of being a finalist; 4 to 5% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. Carlton and Richmond: roughly 10% to 20% chance of being finalists; 1% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  9. GWS: about 3% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  10. Hawthorn, North Melbourne, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 11

There are now 10 teams with about a 9-in-20 or better chances of playing Finals, eight teams with about a 1-in-7 or better chance of finishing Top 4, and three teams with about a 1-in-6 or better chance of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: almost certain of being a finalist; 90% chance of finishing Top 4; and 50% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Port Adelaide and Brisbane Lions: about 95% chance of being finalists; 70 to 75% chances of finishing Top 4; and 15 to 20% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Melbourne and Western Bulldogs: 80 to 85% chance of being finalists; 40 to 50% chance of finishing Top 4; and about 5% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. St Kilda, Adelaide, Essendon, Fremantle, and Geelong: about 45 to 60% chance of being finalists; about 10 to 15% chance of finishing Top 4; and 0.5 to 1% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Sydney and Carlton: roughly 30% chance of being finalists; 4% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Gold Coast: about 20% chance of being a finalist; 2% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Richmond and GWS: about 5 to 7% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  8. Hawthorn, North Melbourne, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 10

There are now nine teams with about a 9-in-20 or better chances of playing Finals, seven teams with about a 1-in-5 or better chances of finishing Top 4, and four teams with about a 1-in-10 or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: almost certain of being a finalist; 85% chance of finishing Top 4; and 45% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Brisbane Lions: over 95% chance of being finalists; 75% chances of finishing Top 4; and 25% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Port Adelaide and Melbourne: 90% chance of being finalists; 55 to 60% chance of finishing Top 4; and 10% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Western Bulldogs and St Kilda: 75 to 85% chance of being finalists; 30 to 45% chance of finishing Top 4; and 3 to 6% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Geelong: about 65% chance of being a finalist; 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 1.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Essendon and Adelaide: about 45 to 50% chance of being a finalist; 8 to 10% chance of finishing Top 4; and very small chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Carlton, Fremantle, and Sydney: roughly 25 to 30% chance of being finalists; 3 to 5% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. Richmond and Gold Coast: about 12% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  9. GWS: about 2% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  10. Hawthorn, North Melbourne, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 9

There are now 10 teams with about a 7-in-20 or better chances of playing Finals, seven teams with about a 1-in-4 or better chances of finishing Top 4, and three teams with about a 1-in-6 or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: almost certain of being a finalist; 85% chance of finishing Top 4; and 40% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Brisbane Lions and Melbourne: over 90% chance of being finalists; 60 to 70% chances of finishing Top 4; and 15 to 20% chances of being Minor Premier

  3. Port Adelaide and Geelong: roughly 80 to 85% chance of being finalists; 40 to 50% chance of finishing Top 4; and 5 to 8% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Western Bulldogs and St Kilda: about 70% chance of being finalists; 25% chance of finishing Top 4; and 3% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Adelaide: about 60% chance of being a finalist; 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 1.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Essendon and Carlton: about 35 to 40% chance of being a finalist; 7 to 8% chance of finishing Top 4; and very small chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Sydney, Richmond, Gold Coast, and Fremantle: roughly 15 to 25% chance of being finalists; 2 to 3% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. GWS: about 4% chance of being a finalist and virtually no chance of finishing Top 4 or being Minor Premier

  9. North Melbourne, Hawthorn, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 8

There are now 11 teams with about a 9-in-20 or better chances of playing Finals, six teams with about a 7-in-20 or better chances of finishing Top 4, and six teams with about a 1-in-16 or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: over 95% chance of being a finalist; 80% chance of finishing Top 4; and 40% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Brisbane Lions, Melbourne, and Geelong: roughly 90% chance of being finalists; 60% chances of finishing Top 4; and 15% chances of being Minor Premier

  3. Port Adelaide and St Kilda: roughly 75 to 80% chance of being finalists; 35 to 40% chance of finishing Top 4; and 6 to 7% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Western Bulldogs: 55% chance of being finalists; 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 2% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Adelaide, Carlton, Essendon, and Sydney: 45 to 50% chance of being a finalist; 10 to 15% chance of finishing Top 4; and 0.5 to 1.5% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Richmond and Gold Coast: roughly 10 to 12% chance of being finalists; 1.5% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Fremantle and GWS: 6 to 8% chance of being a finalist; 0.5 to 1% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. North Melbourne, Hawthorn, and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 7

There are now 11 teams with about 1-in-2 or better chances of playing Finals, six teams with about a 7-in-20 or better chances of finishing Top 4, and six teams with about a 1-in-14 or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: roughly 95% chance of being a finalist; 75% chance of finishing Top 4; and 35% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. Geelong, Melbourne, and Brisbane Lions: roughly 80 to 85% chance of being finalists; 50 to 55% chances of finishing Top 4; and 10 to 15% chances of being Minor Premier

  3. Port Adelaide and St Kilda: roughly 70 to 75% chance of being finalists; 35% chance of finishing Top 4; and 7% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Carlton: 65% chance of being finalists; 25% chance of finishing Top 4; and 5% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Western Bulldogs, Adelaide, Essendon, and Sydney: 20% chance of being a finalist; 4% chance of finishing Top 4; and 1 to 2% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Gold Coast and Richmond: roughly 10 to 15% chance of being finalists; 1 to 2.5% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  7. GWS and Fremantle: 5 to 7% chance of being a finalist; 0.5 to 1% chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. North Melbourne and West Coast: little to no chance of being finalists, finishing Top 4. or being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 6

There are still nine teams with about 3-in-5 or better chances of playing Finals, about a 1-in-4 or better chances of finishing Top 4, and about 1-in-30 or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: roughly 95% chance of being a finalist; 75% chance of finishing Top 4; and 35% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. St Kilda, Geelong, Melbourne, and Brisbane Lions: roughly 75 to 85% chance of being finalists; 40 to 55% chances of finishing Top 4; and 10 to 14% chances of being Minor Premier

  3. Port Adelaide, Sydney, Adelaide, and Essendon: roughly 60 to 65% chance of being finalists; 25 to 30% chance of finishing Top 4; and 3 to 4% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Western Bulldogs and Carlton: 45 to 50% chance of being finalists; 15 to 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 2% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Richmond: 20% chance of being a finalist; 4% chance of finishing Top 4; and little chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Gold Coast and Fremantle: roughly 8 to 10% chance of being finalists; 1 to 1.5% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  7. GWS: 5% chance of being a finalist; little chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. West Coast, North Melbourne, and Hawthorn: 0.5 to 1% chance of being finalists; little to no chance of finishing Top 4; and no chance of being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 5

There are now nine teams with 60% or better chances of playing Finals, better than 25% chances of finishing Top 4, and about 5% or better chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood: roughly 90% chance of being a finalist; 70% chance of finishing Top 4; and 30% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. St Kilda, Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane Lions: roughly 75 to 80% chance of being a finalist; 40 to 45% chance of finishing Top 4; and 9 to 12% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Geelong, Port Adelaide, Essendon, and Adelaide: roughly 60 to 70% chance of being a finalist; 25 to 35% chance of finishing Top 4; and 5 to 6% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Carlton: 50% chance of being a finalist; 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 4% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Western Bulldogs: 35% chance of being a finalist; 9% chance of finishing Top 4; and 1% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Richmond and Fremantle: 20 to 25% chance of being a finalist; 5 to 6% chance of finishing Top 4; and little chance of being Minor Premier

  7. Gold Coast and GWS: roughly 7 to 10% chance of being a finalist; 1 to 1.5% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. North Melbourne, West Coast, and Hawthorn: 1% chance of being a finalist; little chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

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2023 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 4

The latest simulation results suggest that the competition is, if anything, now even more wide open, with 7 teams enjoying 60% or better chances of playing Finals, better than 25% chances of finishing Top 4, and better than 4% chances of finishing as Minor Premiers.

Those simulations suggest that the teams can now be roughly grouped as follows:

  1. Collingwood and Melbourne: roughly 90% chance of being a finalist; 60 to 70% chance of finishing Top 4; and 20 to 30% chance of being Minor Premier

  2. St Kilda: roughly 75 to 80% chance of being a finalist; 45 to 50% chance of finishing Top 4; and 10 to 15% chance of being Minor Premier

  3. Carlton, Geelong, and Sydney: roughly 65 to 70% chance of being a finalist; 30 to 40% chance of finishing Top 4; and 5 to 10% chance of being Minor Premier

  4. Port Adelaide : 60% chance of being a finalist; 25% chance of finishing Top 4; and 4% chance of being Minor Premier

  5. Brisbane Lions, Adelaide, Richmond, Essendon, and Western Bulldogs: 40 to 50% chance of being a finalist; 10 to 20% chance of finishing Top 4; and 1 to 3% chance of being Minor Premier

  6. Fremantle and Gold Coast: 15 to 25% chance of being a finalist; 3 to 6% chance of finishing Top 4; and little chance of being Minor Premier

  7. GWS and North Melbourne: roughly 6 to 7% chance of being a finalist; 1% chance of finishing Top 4; and little to virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

  8. Hawthorn and West Coast: 2% chance of being a finalist; little chance of finishing Top 4; and virtually no chance of being Minor Premier

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2022 : Simulating the Final Ladder After Round 22

The Standard and Heretical simulations are now just conditional probability calculations, and they reveal the following:

  1. Geelong: Minor Premiers

  2. Sydney: 85% chances for Top 4

  3. Collingwood, Melbourne, and Brisbane Lions: 55-60% chances for Top 4

  4. Fremantle: 40-50% chances for Top 4

  5. Richmond: Play Finals

  6. Carlton: 70% chances of playing Finals

  7. Western Bulldogs: 30% chances of playing Finals

  8. St Kilda: huge longshot to play Finals

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